Diss
Victoria Road towermill |
Hand
coloured postcard c.1907
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Diss tower mill in Victoria Road was built on common land by Thomas Jay around 1817.In later years the mill was known as Button's Mill. The six storey mill was one of the largest in the area and was probably first built with eight sails (as was Old_Buckenham_towermill). The sails powered 2 pairs of 5ft and 1 pair of 4ft French burr stones, a flour mill and jumper but by 1880 this had increased to four pairs of stones that were powered by 4 double shuttered sails, each with 8 bays of 3 shutters that were struck by rack and pinion via a tail pole. The tower was 33 feet in diameter at the base and had a domed cap with a ball finial. The cap held an 8 bladed fan was vertically boarded to form its own petticoat. |
Vertical boarded domed cap with ball finial. 4 double shuttered a/c sails. 8-bladed fan. |
Pepper pot cap 22 ft. diam. wqith vertical boarding. |
Land bought by Thmas Jay from George Eaton |
An entry in the diary of Thomas King, who owned Thelnetham Mill in Suffolk, read Strong wind Nov 24th 1836 Jays 8 sailed mill down Diss... |
Thomas Jay also owned Stuston Road postmill on the common that had been damaged a week earlier. |
Mr. Jay's small mill on the Common, used for the purpose of dressing
flour etc. was blown off the brick foundations... and is now lying on the
ground in a shattered state. Suffolk Chronicle - 26th November 1836 |
B&W postcard c.1907 |
Diss Parish Records POOR RATE 1836 Made 26 September at 1s. in the pound |
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No. 72 No. 73 No. 74 No. 75 |
Occupier Owner House Assessed at Rate at 1s. Occupier Owner Mill Assessed at Rate at 1s. Occupier Owner Lands, 9 acres Assessed at Rate at 1s. Occupier Owner New Mill Assessed at Rate at 1s. |
Thomas Jay Himself The Common £10. 10s. Thomas Jay Himself The Common £20 £1 Thomas Jay Himself £3. 10s. 3s. 6d. Thomas Jay Himself £5 5s. |
Diss Parish Records POOR RATE 1837 Made 26 September at 2s. in the pound |
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No. 73 No. 73 |
Occupier Owner House Assessed at Rate Mill Assessed at Rate Land 6½ a. Assessed at Rate |
Thomas Jay Himself The Common £10. £1 £20 £2 £3. 10s. 7s. Total £3. 7s. |
On Monday afternoon & Tuesday, the
gale was more severe than that of the preceding week - on Diss Common,
Mr. Jay's large tower-mill was damaged. |
Tithe map 1838 - as redrawn by Harry Apling |
Tithe Award 1837 |
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No. 1070 |
Mill yard |
Pasture |
3a. 1r. 18p. |
Part of £2 |
Diss Parish Records POOR RATE 1845 Made 10 May 1845 at 19d. in the pound |
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No. 85 No. 86 No. 87 |
Occupier Owner House & Garden Gross Estimated Rental Rateable Value Rate at 1s. 7d. Mill & 0a. 3r. 25p. Gross Estimated Rental Rateable Value Rate at 1s. 7d. Land Gross Estimated Rental Rateable Value Rate at 1s. 7d. |
Thomas Jay Himself £40 £20 £1. 11. 8 £26 £20 £1. 11. 8 £8. 10s £8. 5s. 13s. 0¾d. |
Thomas Jay died on 3rd April 1847 aged 78 and was buried north side of Diss churchyard. Sarah Jay died on 28th December 18?? and was buried alongside her husband. |
Diss Very Capital BRICK TOWER WINDMILL Excellent sash-fronted Residence … Messrs. Elliott & Sons are instructed to Sell by Auction at the Kings Head Inn, Diss on Monday 5 September 1853 at 3 o’c Lot 13. A most substantial & powerful brick TOWER WINDMILL with six floors, four patent sails, wind tackle, three pairs of French stones (2 pairs 5 ft. & 1 pair 4 ft.) flour machine, flour mill, jumper & other requisite going gears. Substantial Brick & Tiled Miller’s cottage, board & slated Granary, Stable, Gig house, Cart lodge, Piggery, Garden & Mill Yard containing altogether 0a.3r.22p. There is an excellent retain trade attached to this lot. Above lots in the occupation of Mrs. Jay & Possession may be had at Michaelmas next. Particulars of Mr. Browne, Solr. Diss & Messrs. Elliott & Sons Estate Agents & Auctioneers, Thelton & Diss. Norfolk Chronicle - 20th & 27th August 1853 |
Diss. An Excellent … Residence … pleasure garden, kitchen garden, Pasture Land … 3a. 2r. 1p. All Freehold and is admirably situate within a short distance of the Railway Station, possessing a frontage of about 232 feet next the high road from Diss to Scole. Immediate possession. Apply to Mr. Browne, Solr., Diss, or Messrs. Butcher, Land Agents and Auctioneers, Norwich. Norfolk Chronicle - 27th September & 11th October 1856 |
John Button bought the mill at auction in 1880 having previously worked Billingford Mill. |
An Enclosure of Accommodation Land, highly valuable for building purposes; a powerful brick-built freehold Tower Wind and Steam Mill, driving five pairs of French stones, a substantial Miller’s Cottage, spacious Yard and suitable outbuildings, with a convenient freehold family residence, all well situated at the entrance to the town of Diss, and within a few minutes’ walk of the Railway Station; which will be sold by Auction, by Mr. Edward Smith, of Colchester, at the King’s Head Hotel, Diss, on Thursday, July 8th 1830, at four for five o’clock in the Afternoon, in two lots, by direction of the Proprietor. Lot 2. A valuable and desirable Freehold Estate, comprising a capital powerful brick-built freehold Tower Wind and Steam Mill, very conveniently situated with Six Floors, Four Patent Sails, Wind Tackle, Five Pairs of French stones, Flour Mill, Jumper, and other Requisite Going Gear, with Steam Engine and machinery. A substantial Brick-and-tiled Freehold Miller’s cottage, Granary, Stable, Gighouse, Cart Lodge, Piggery, Gardens, and Spacious Mill Yard. Together with the superior and well-arranged Freehold Family Residence, pleasantly situated, with neatly laid-out grounds (and separated from the High road by iron palisades), with capital walled-in kitchen garden in the rear, containing about half an acre. The Residence comprises:- Entrance Hall, Parlour, Sitting Room, Kitchen, Back Kitchen (in which is a pump well supplied with excellent water) a good Room now used as an Office, Larder, Capital Underground Cellar, Pantry, Storeroom. Newspaper advert - 1880 |
William Michael Hawes bought the mill at auction in October 1856. His brother, Robert Hawes later worked Fersfield open trestle postmill. |
Diss Parish Records POOR RATE 1864 Made 24 November 1864 at 9d. in the pound |
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No. 157 No. 158 |
Occupier Owner House, Mill, Cottages, Garden 1a. 1r. 37p. Gross Estimated Rental Rateable Value Rate at 9d. in the pound Land 3a. 0r. 5p. Gross extimated Rental Rateable Value Rate at 9d. in the pound |
William Michael Howes Himself Victoria Road £60 £40 £1. 10s. £6. 10s £6 4. 6d. |
In the 1870s, William Hawes' brother Robert ran Fersfield postmill. |
Sale particulars. Edward Smith, Auctioneer, Colchester. At King’s Head Hotel, Diss, Thursday 8 July 1880. Sale of mill & land in 2 lots. Mill. Tower mill 8 floors 4 patent sails wind tackle 8 pairs French Stones Flour Mill Jumper & other going gear. Steam engine & machinery Miller’s Cottage, Granary etc. & Family Residence. Lot 1. Land. 3a.0r.5p. Lot 2. Mill & Yard etc. Cottage, House Diss Antiquarian Society News Sheet - Autumn 1973 |
Victoria Mills, Diss. |
Flour, Corn, Meal, Pollards etc., etc., |
of the Best Quality, will be supplied Wholesale and Retail at the Lowest Market Prices, and solicits continued and increasing support. Diss Express - 20th August 1880 |
East Anglian Daily Times - 9th April 1892 |
3 mills on Stuston Common c.1915 |
The above photograph shows the army from Diss Camp 51 about to give a demonstration with Maxim machine guns on Stuston Common with several civilians looking on. Diss smockmill is to the right, the steam chimney and Rose_Lane_composite_mill to the left of centre and the sails of Victoria Road towermill are just visible on the left horizon above the back of the horse. |
John Button bought the mill at auction in July 1880 and his family continued running it to the end of its working life. A steam engine for auxiliary power had been installed some time before 1880 and this was later replaced by an oil engine and roller mills had been added by 1892. John Button also ran Weybread watermill, which was destroyed by fire in 1921. Two years later in 1923, due to financial constraints, the family were obliged to move back into the mill cottage at Diss and John Button then ran the mill himself. At approx 8.45am one morning in 1928, during a heavy gale, one of the sails fell off. It was not replaced and the opposing sail was removed not long afterwards to retain the balance. After a short time of running with just one pair of sails the mill finally ceased working in 1929. |
Re Terling smockmill, Essex. |
According to Mrs. Joan Edwards of Bressingham, J. & W. E. Button had the business from 1883 - 1926 and John Button jnr from 1926 - 1936. |
John Button died in 1902 aged 72. |
Mill working c.1926 |
Mill working c.1926 |
DISS. Tower mill, now has only two sails on & is in generally weather worn condition. The fly has gone. The sails on the mill came from the post mill at Framlingham when the latter was pulled down in 1921 ... |
Diss ... big black towermill, with two sails & huge white dome-shaped cap. The mill was working complete with four sails until 1927 or 1928, but the owner fell upon bad times & the mill fell into disrepair, & is probably inactive for the time being. |
8th September 1937 |
With so many mills in the town itself, it is somewhat surprising to find an equal number on Diss Common, which at one time stretched for well over a mile from the Picture House towards Frenze Hall in one direction and Stuston Common in the other. To travel down Victoria Road today one would never imagine that scattered over this common were at one time no less than five windmills, of which the most imposing must without doubt have been what came to be known as “Button’s Mill”. The massive tower, which is of very substantial construction, still stands off Victoria Road, converted into an enviable residence for Mr. Robert Manning. The land on which it stands was purchased by one Thomas Jay from George Eaton about 1817, and by 1822 this large brick tower-mill was in full working order with no less than eight sails, one of only seven similar mills in the whole country. On November 24 th 1836, however, a strong wind brought down sails and cap, damaging the tower (Diary of Thos. King, B.R.O, Ac. 491); It was rebuilt with six floors, four sails and a large domed cap with an interesting framing. Four pairs of 4 ft. diameter millstones were driven on the second floor. About 1890 the mill came into the possession of the Buttons, a milling family who owned or rented windmills in several places in Norfolk and Suffolk, finally passing into the hands of one John Button, who had a reputation for other things besides milling. In 1921 four new rather short sails came off Framlingham post-mill when the latter was dismantled in the same year. After two of these sails blew off in a gale in 1929 the owner continued with the remaining two and one pair of engine-driven stones, doing a little wholemeal flour trade. Falling upon bad times, he was unable to keep the mill in repair, and when he died it was already derelict. It was later used as a saw-mill, and then purchased for conversion into a house, as it stands today. |
When the last two sails were finally removed, some time after 1936, they were installed on Terling smockmill in Essex. |
During the conversion process, the mill was cement rendered and painted white, leaving just a black base. The accommodation included: |
1st June 1971 |
The sails blew off in 1929/30 & since then the top was lowered, the cap removed & it was converted into part of the premises of a Timber Saw Mill. |
For a time the lower floors were used as part of the premises for a sawmill but the building became derelict over the years until it was bought by Mr. Robert Manning in 1968 and had been converted into residential accommodation by 1972, leaving the remainder of the tower 40 feet high. |
Conversion of mill to residence by Mr. Robert Manning. |
Rating application by Robert Manning. |
1989 |
AN historic windmill and adjoining cottage in Diss have been the target of a number of break-ins over
recent weeks. |
By October this year, the mill had been renovated and presumably had new owners. The tower had been stripped of most of its render, showing attractive red brick, but had small new surrounds of render round the windows. |
O.S. Map 1885 |
O. S. Map 1903 Victoria Road towermill - centre left Rose Lane Composite mill - in malthouse yard, lower centre right Stuston Rd Smockmill - lower right Courtesy of NLS map images |
O.S. Map 2005 Image reproduced under licence from Ordnance Survey |
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c.1817: Mill
built by Thomas Jay on land bought from George Eaton
August 1853: Mill advertised for sale by auction White's 1854: Sarah Jay, corn miller, Norwich Road (Mere St in 1864) September 1856: Mill advertised for sale by auction Poor Rate 1864: William Michael Howes, owner & occupier
Thursday 8th July 1880: John Button bought the mill at auction including steam machinery
1892: Roller mills in use
1902: John Button died at the age of 82
1921: Sails from Framlingham postmill in Suffolk installed, supplied by the owner, an uncle of John Button Kelly's 1922: J. & W. E. Button, roller millers & corn & coal merchants, Victoria Road 1923: Button family moved back into the mill cottage 1928: One sail broke off during a storm and its opposte sail removed shortly afterwards |
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